Comments on: End this word: ‘Gubernatorial’ http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/ Where TV Finds the Future Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:13:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: 507c1559065c http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-948032 507c1559065c Sat, 10 May 2008 21:06:55 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-948032 <strong>507c1559065c...</strong> 507c1559065c0abd1fbe... 507c1559065c…

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]]> By: Sam http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-698855 Sam Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:32:54 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-698855 Wow, thanks for the excellent information! Wow, thanks for the excellent information!

]]> By: mediaburn http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-23507 mediaburn Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:50:42 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-23507 Contemporary english has its place, but an all-out ban? It doesn't hurt for people to hear the one proper word that that sums the entire event up--at least once in a while--rather than having to rewrite entire sentences to sound "forced conversational..." Contemporary english has its place, but an all-out ban?

It doesn’t hurt for people to hear the one proper word that that sums the entire event up–at least once in a while–rather than having to rewrite entire sentences to sound “forced conversational…”

]]> By: Mark SHepherd http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-23023 Mark SHepherd Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:30:21 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-23023 I believe it was Linda Ellerbee who once wrote "Even Gubernators" don't say "Gubernatorial." I believe it was Linda Ellerbee who once wrote “Even Gubernators” don’t say “Gubernatorial.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22866 Anonymous Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:35:51 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22866 too much weed in the 60's? too much weed in the 60’s?

]]> By: Frank Catalano http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22602 Frank Catalano Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:08:07 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22602 Um, like, that's how the kids have spoken since the 1970s. Um, like, that’s how the kids have spoken since the 1970s.

]]> By: El Dangeroso http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22594 El Dangeroso Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:43:45 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22594 If we truly wrote conversationally, we'd use the word "like" every third word. That's how the kids speak these days. If we truly wrote conversationally, we’d use the word “like” every third word.

That’s how the kids speak these days.

]]> By: Tim http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22556 Tim Mon, 02 Oct 2006 01:01:20 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22556 It's too close to Goobernatatorial - having to do with Gomer's cousin's swimming - so could cause confusion. And these days, we know the voters are so easily confused - "Let's see... shall I vote for the Republicans who claim to have democratic ideas, or the Democrats who believe in republican ideals?" No wonder so many of them tend to just memorize one word "incumbent" and one phrase "vote against" It’s too close to Goobernatatorial - having to do with Gomer’s cousin’s swimming - so could cause confusion. And these days, we know the voters are so easily confused - “Let’s see… shall I vote for the Republicans who claim to have democratic ideas, or the Democrats who believe in republican ideals?” No wonder so many of them tend to just memorize one word “incumbent” and one phrase “vote against”

]]> By: Frank Catalano http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22497 Frank Catalano Sun, 01 Oct 2006 21:45:14 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22497 I stand corrected. My Webster's Unabridged Second Edition (1948) also lists senatorial as a proper word, giving examples such as "senatorial duties" or "senatorial dignity." I should have checked first. (And I know this isn't simply because dictionaries are more descriptive than proscriptive of language these days.) My error; that's what I get for dashing off a comment before coffee. However, I'm a huge fan of using a simpler word rather than more complex one if the simpler word will do in conversation. "Senate race" and "Governor's race" both have that conversational simplicity going for them. I stand corrected.

My Webster’s Unabridged Second Edition (1948) also lists senatorial as a proper word, giving examples such as “senatorial duties” or “senatorial dignity.”

I should have checked first. (And I know this isn’t simply because dictionaries are more descriptive than proscriptive of language these days.) My error; that’s what I get for dashing off a comment before coffee.

However, I’m a huge fan of using a simpler word rather than more complex one if the simpler word will do in conversation. “Senate race” and “Governor’s race” both have that conversational simplicity going for them.

]]> By: thewashingtonchannel http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22477 thewashingtonchannel Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:21:53 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22477 also, senatorial describes the occupation which many republican candidates will hold following this next election; a janitorial position combined with the prestige of having been a senator in the past. also, senatorial describes the occupation which many republican candidates will hold following this next election; a janitorial position combined with the prestige of having been a senator in the past.

]]> By: Lee http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22452 Lee Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:18:13 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22452 Not to get off the mark, because I happen to agree with Safran on this, but the American Heritage Dictionary says that not only is senatorial a word, but so is senatorially. Doesn't mean you should write either one into your copy though. American Heritage Dictionary sen·a·to·ri·al (sn-t�r-l, -tr-) adj. 1. Of, concerning, or befitting a senator or senate. 2. Composed of senators. sena·tori·al·ly adv. Not to get off the mark, because I happen to agree with Safran on this, but the American Heritage Dictionary says that not only is senatorial a word, but so is senatorially. Doesn’t mean you should write either one into your copy though.

American Heritage Dictionary
sen·a·to·ri·al (sn-t�r-l, -tr-) adj.

1. Of, concerning, or befitting a senator or senate.
2. Composed of senators.

sena·tori·al·ly adv.

]]> By: Frank Catalano http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22376 Frank Catalano Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:07:07 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22376 While we're at it, let's nuke a word that's frequently used in broadcasting that is not actually a word: Senatorial. It's Senate. As in "Senate race," not "Senatorial race." This is a textbook example of someone taking a real word ("Senator") and adding letters to it, forgetting that the word "Senate" is the right one. While we’re at it, let’s nuke a word that’s frequently used in broadcasting that is not actually a word: Senatorial.

It’s Senate.

As in “Senate race,” not “Senatorial race.” This is a textbook example of someone taking a real word (”Senator”) and adding letters to it, forgetting that the word “Senate” is the right one.

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22112 Safran Sun, 01 Oct 2006 02:58:39 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22112 I don't see the problem with writing in "contemporary English." There's a tendency to romanticize the old - excuse me, "olde" - but language evolves. (Not that *anyone* ever used "gubernatorial.") Language evolves, and thank goodness. We don't speak English the way that was considered proper at the start of the 20th century. And I'm sure the "thee" and "thou" speakers of the 17th century would be horrified by our use of the familiar "you" forms. English has, depending on who you believe and how you count them, between 500,000 and a million words. That makes it, far and away, the language with the most words. Hardly one for dummies. And hardly one that will be "dumbed down" by subtracting a word from TV newswriting that nobody uses. I don’t see the problem with writing in “contemporary English.” There’s a tendency to romanticize the old - excuse me, “olde” - but language evolves. (Not that *anyone* ever used “gubernatorial.”)

Language evolves, and thank goodness. We don’t speak English the way that was considered proper at the start of the 20th century. And I’m sure the “thee” and “thou” speakers of the 17th century would be horrified by our use of the familiar “you” forms.

English has, depending on who you believe and how you count them, between 500,000 and a million words. That makes it, far and away, the language with the most words. Hardly one for dummies. And hardly one that will be “dumbed down” by subtracting a word from TV newswriting that nobody uses.

]]> By: Chris Rooney http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22100 Chris Rooney Sun, 01 Oct 2006 02:10:11 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22100 Amen, Steve! I will go to whatever lengths needed to avoid using that word when I'm writing. Amen, Steve! I will go to whatever lengths needed to avoid using that word when I’m writing.

]]> By: Charles http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22060 Charles Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:33:20 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2006/09/30/end-this-word-gubernatorial/#comment-22060 And let's not call it a Presidential race. Let's call it a President's race! :) Sure, it may not be kosher with our very laid-back, contemporary english, but anybody who actually cares about who's running for governor will know *exactly* what Gubernatorial means. We don't need to dumb EVERYTHING down to MTV-level. There's still a role in our socialcultural climate for big words. ^_^ And let’s not call it a Presidential race. Let’s call it a President’s race! :)

Sure, it may not be kosher with our very laid-back, contemporary english, but anybody who actually cares about who’s running for governor will know *exactly* what Gubernatorial means.

We don’t need to dumb EVERYTHING down to MTV-level. There’s still a role in our socialcultural climate for big words. ^_^

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