Comments on: New York Times agrees to sell TV stations http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/ Where TV Finds the Future Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:20:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kostas http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-454601 Kostas Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:21:57 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-454601 Nice! Nice!

]]> By: Preved! http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-452307 Preved! Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:28:52 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-452307 Hello Bye Hello

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]]> By: Koinos http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-357778 Koinos Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:59:02 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-357778 Cool... Cool…

]]> By: Eleftherios http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-356766 Eleftherios Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:01:00 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-356766 Cool... Cool…

]]> By: Dimitri http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-354562 Dimitri Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:46:35 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-354562 Cool. Cool.

]]> By: Panicos http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-343866 Panicos Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:42:44 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-343866 Nice Nice

]]> By: Leontios http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-317551 Leontios Mon, 21 May 2007 18:28:10 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-317551 Cool. Cool.

]]> By: Konstandinos http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-313260 Konstandinos Thu, 17 May 2007 15:37:33 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-313260 interesting interesting

]]> By: Athan http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-313068 Athan Thu, 17 May 2007 11:06:09 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-313068 Interesting... Interesting…

]]> By: WebGirl http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-270519 WebGirl Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:21:09 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-270519 Newspaper sites beat TV sites for two simple reasons: The sites are more robust and the web departments are well-staffed. Period. The NYT is an excellent example of this. NYT Digital supports the entire online edition of the paper. The NYTBG web departments are very leanly staffed, in most cases with just one web producer. If Oak Hill expect to make any money on the stations' websites, they are going to have to invest capital -- both human and technological -- or the sites will continue to tread water like they have been doing. One need only look to WRAL.com and the size of their web staff (both content and sales) to see that the adage, you get what you pay for is true. Time will tell if Oak Hill -- unlike the NYT -- will do more than just pay lip service to the importance of the web. Newspaper sites beat TV sites for two simple reasons: The sites are more robust and the web departments are well-staffed. Period. The NYT is an excellent example of this. NYT Digital supports the entire online edition of the paper. The NYTBG web departments are very leanly staffed, in most cases with just one web producer. If Oak Hill expect to make any money on the stations’ websites, they are going to have to invest capital — both human and technological — or the sites will continue to tread water like they have been doing. One need only look to WRAL.com and the size of their web staff (both content and sales) to see that the adage, you get what you pay for is true. Time will tell if Oak Hill — unlike the NYT — will do more than just pay lip service to the importance of the web.

]]> By: Anony Mouse http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-120353 Anony Mouse Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:59:49 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-120353 Newspaper sites beat TV sites because of their verticals. The jobs, real estate, classifieds power their numbers. Another dirty little newspaper secret: they push slideshows which run up the page view counts faster than a video view which is a different experience but still counted the same way. Newspaper sites beat TV sites because of their verticals. The jobs, real estate, classifieds power their numbers. Another dirty little newspaper secret: they push slideshows which run up the page view counts faster than a video view which is a different experience but still counted the same way.

]]> By: Rocker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119996 Rocker Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:19:59 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119996 I'd like to challenge this prevailing wisdom that "local newspaper websites dominate local TV websites", although I'll concede that in general newspaper sites are better. You have to remember though that in most markets there is effectively one major newspaper, and 4 (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox) affiliate sites and often fairly serious efforts by CW stations as well. I don't have all the numbers to do the math, but I suspect that in many markets if you added the TV side up it would either win or certainly be a lot closer. So, the statement that "local newspaper blows away local TV online" is really not accurate. From a revenue perspective, this mirrors the traditional offline world too, where the big newspaper in most towns has long had billing comparable to all the TV stations in town combined (and that would be understood to be the fair comparison, not one newspaper vs. one TV station). As a side note, that traditional newspaper revenue dominance was largely driven by classifieds (like 50%) and a couple of key categories like retail, automotive and movies...all now fleeing in droves. I’d like to challenge this prevailing wisdom that “local newspaper websites dominate local TV websites”, although I’ll concede that in general newspaper sites are better. You have to remember though that in most markets there is effectively one major newspaper, and 4 (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox) affiliate sites and often fairly serious efforts by CW stations as well. I don’t have all the numbers to do the math, but I suspect that in many markets if you added the TV side up it would either win or certainly be a lot closer. So, the statement that “local newspaper blows away local TV online” is really not accurate. From a revenue perspective, this mirrors the traditional offline world too, where the big newspaper in most towns has long had billing comparable to all the TV stations in town combined (and that would be understood to be the fair comparison, not one newspaper vs. one TV station). As a side note, that traditional newspaper revenue dominance was largely driven by classifieds (like 50%) and a couple of key categories like retail, automotive and movies…all now fleeing in droves.

]]> By: thedetroitchannel http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119970 thedetroitchannel Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:32:16 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119970 hey, that wral site looks different. dayport-ish, no? hey, that wral site looks different.

dayport-ish, no?

]]> By: discreet_chaos http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119947 discreet_chaos Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:12:16 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119947 PS) Though Norfolk isn't anything to sneeze at by any means, but like most places, I'd think the newspaper would win like Cory said. And BTW to the person up top; I've also lived in the Virginia Beach market a couple of times and though I don't automatically think of WTKR, I'm sure nobody is going to let the affiliate go. PS) Though Norfolk isn’t anything to sneeze at by any means, but like most places, I’d think the newspaper would win like Cory said.

And BTW to the person up top; I’ve also lived in the Virginia Beach market a couple of times and though I don’t automatically think of WTKR, I’m sure nobody is going to let the affiliate go.

]]> By: discreet_chaos http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119943 discreet_chaos Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:08:06 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/04/new-york-times-agrees-to-sell-tv-stations/#comment-119943 Unfortunately detroit, no and perhaps to make matters worse; The Abq Journal's site is paid subscribers only (I thought there was a workaround and I tried to put a link into my supplementary blog this evening, but the article quit loading and I had to swear-off linking to their site) and there's three news stations for most of the state, along with three degrees of service. There's a lot of good newspaper and a few good television sites across the country, but however you slice that bread, with both WRAL & the N&O, Raleigh has a lot of places beat. Unfortunately detroit, no and perhaps to make matters worse; The Abq Journal’s site is paid subscribers only (I thought there was a workaround and I tried to put a link into my supplementary blog this evening, but the article quit loading and I had to swear-off linking to their site) and there’s three news stations for most of the state, along with three degrees of service.

There’s a lot of good newspaper and a few good television sites across the country, but however you slice that bread, with both WRAL & the N&O, Raleigh has a lot of places beat.

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