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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Venice Project&#8217; launches in beta as Joost</title>
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	<description>Where TV Finds the Future</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-129929</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Joost (pronounced toast in NL) will do fine.  But they'll have problems with content.  Why should Disney place it's content side by side with NBCU's or Viacom's.  And have to pay Joost for the privilege?  They'll want to keep control and the ad revenues.  And they can as Joost's technology isn't proprietary.

I think P2P is the future.  VOD just doesn't scale to the numbers that movie and TV guys are used to.  And since everything is moving towards the web they'll go with P2P.  

Of course we are in P2P streaming biz so you might want to take what I say with a grain (or more) of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Joost (pronounced toast in NL) will do fine.  But they&#8217;ll have problems with content.  Why should Disney place it&#8217;s content side by side with NBCU&#8217;s or Viacom&#8217;s.  And have to pay Joost for the privilege?  They&#8217;ll want to keep control and the ad revenues.  And they can as Joost&#8217;s technology isn&#8217;t proprietary.</p>
<p>I think P2P is the future.  VOD just doesn&#8217;t scale to the numbers that movie and TV guys are used to.  And since everything is moving towards the web they&#8217;ll go with P2P.  </p>
<p>Of course we are in P2P streaming biz so you might want to take what I say with a grain (or more) of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-129198</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P2P is a workaround, not a business plan. Let's face it - we understand P2P, but we're pretty geek-intensive. Civilians aren't going to adopt P2P as a mainstream concept.

The future of video distribution is video on demand. P2P exists because content providers won't allow us any other way to get content on demand. The more that breaks down, the less we'll depend on P2P. If the fastest Torrent I downloaded was MUCH slower than a download from the Apple iTunes store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2P is a workaround, not a business plan. Let&#8217;s face it - we understand P2P, but we&#8217;re pretty geek-intensive. Civilians aren&#8217;t going to adopt P2P as a mainstream concept.</p>
<p>The future of video distribution is video on demand. P2P exists because content providers won&#8217;t allow us any other way to get content on demand. The more that breaks down, the less we&#8217;ll depend on P2P. If the fastest Torrent I downloaded was MUCH slower than a download from the Apple iTunes store.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128774</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, I don't believe that it is the future of distributing video for one primary reason, peers need to store the content for the model to work.  I don't think enough people would be willing or have the available space to store HQ content on their computers and currently most home connections are limited in fact their upload speed is crippled by our ISP's.  Yes, p2p is successful, but primarily for one reason, the sharing of mostly illegal music, video and applications.  If the US kept pace with the rest of the civilized world maybe p2p would be a great medium for content distribution but we are years behind and I don't think we have the infrastructure to support p2p for the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, I don&#8217;t believe that it is the future of distributing video for one primary reason, peers need to store the content for the model to work.  I don&#8217;t think enough people would be willing or have the available space to store HQ content on their computers and currently most home connections are limited in fact their upload speed is crippled by our ISP&#8217;s.  Yes, p2p is successful, but primarily for one reason, the sharing of mostly illegal music, video and applications.  If the US kept pace with the rest of the civilized world maybe p2p would be a great medium for content distribution but we are years behind and I don&#8217;t think we have the infrastructure to support p2p for the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocker</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128747</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas...or anyone really....I'd be interested in a thread discussing p2p..is it really the future for studios looking to distribute video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas&#8230;or anyone really&#8230;.I&#8217;d be interested in a thread discussing p2p..is it really the future for studios looking to distribute video?</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128729</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a Mac user so I'm screwed for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Mac user so I&#8217;m screwed for now.</p>
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		<title>By: thedetroitchannel</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128708</link>
		<dc:creator>thedetroitchannel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if we don't set too high expectations of any of these launches right out of the gate

i would concentrate on the user's ability to actually USE web channels easily.

great content on a sh1tty app might be worse than the other way around.

remember, this is not tv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if we don&#8217;t set too high expectations of any of these launches right out of the gate</p>
<p>i would concentrate on the user&#8217;s ability to actually USE web channels easily.</p>
<p>great content on a sh1tty app might be worse than the other way around.</p>
<p>remember, this is not tv</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128686</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i've been Beta testing this for a while now and really im not that impressed.  The quality is ok and the interface is sort of cool but I just don't see the whole p2p thing working out for this project.  I understand that Niklas &#38; Janus has enough money to do what they wish but quit hyping this up until it actually shows promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i&#8217;ve been Beta testing this for a while now and really im not that impressed.  The quality is ok and the interface is sort of cool but I just don&#8217;t see the whole p2p thing working out for this project.  I understand that Niklas &amp; Janus has enough money to do what they wish but quit hyping this up until it actually shows promise.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/01/16/venice-project-launches-in-beta-as-joost/#comment-128425</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been using it too. Interface is alright, quality is okay, but the selection sucks. The add-ons are probably what makes-or-breaks it, but right now I can't quite see that big-future-vision-thang in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using it too. Interface is alright, quality is okay, but the selection sucks. The add-ons are probably what makes-or-breaks it, but right now I can&#8217;t quite see that big-future-vision-thang in it.</p>
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