Comments on: ‘Too few people subscribed’ to CNN Pipeline http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/ Where TV Finds the Future Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:11:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Anonymous http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-562108 Anonymous Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:17:43 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-562108 go to hell go to hell

]]> By: John G. http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-420794 John G. Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:40:10 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-420794 Bad move...as a customer, it would have been nice to have been asked prior to CNN pulling the plug. This was a premium service, and should be kept. Now they are pushing one video stream, where before we had at least three plus the weather feed. Mr. Payne, please bring my Pipeline back!!! Bad move…as a customer, it would have been nice to have been asked prior to CNN pulling the plug. This was a premium service, and should be kept. Now they are pushing one video stream, where before we had at least three plus the weather feed.

Mr. Payne, please bring my Pipeline back!!!

]]> By: Bubba http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-415447 Bubba Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:06:14 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-415447 THey ruined it. Free video was there before. Now there in no CNN International on nights or weekends - just a screen that says video will return 6am and when it does it's reruns and junk. Fire Payne. THey ruined it. Free video was there before. Now there in no CNN International on nights or weekends - just a screen that says video will return 6am and when it does it’s reruns and junk. Fire Payne.

]]> By: Gilbert Velasquez http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-407953 Gilbert Velasquez Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:19:52 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-407953 I enjoyed Pipeline as a payed subscriber and even though it had many problems I also agree it was good of CNN to try this product. I think that something similar could also work as a free service. I still believe CNN to be the best at delivering news on broadcast networks but the web is the best source to go to for immediacy and video is of utmost importance, second only to the proven quality news reports. Pipeline gave us more on demand choices and I miss it. I enjoyed Pipeline as a payed subscriber and even though
it had many problems I also agree it was good of CNN to try this product. I think that something similar could also work as a free service. I still believe CNN to be the best
at delivering news on broadcast networks but the web is the best source to go to for immediacy and video is of utmost importance, second only to the proven quality news reports. Pipeline gave us more on demand choices and I miss it.

]]> By: Steve Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-387591 Steve Safran Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:45:06 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-387591 Thom: Nobody is more spin-sensitive than I. But I also don't automatically slam something that doesn't succeed. And I think Pipeline is a genuinely interesting product. I did not think it was going to succeed as a pay model, but I do think it is a good product and I always salute companies no matter how big or small for taking risks. (Disclosure: I interviewed to be one of the original Pipeline producers.) "Pipeline" did not succeed as a pay model. Absolutely not. But I do think it was innovative. And they tried something unique. Surely that's worth celebrating in a universe of homogeneity and fear of trying anything different. I don't see much good in giving CNN a pasting for trying. Like you, there are parts to the site I like and parts I don't. (I'll never understand the obsession with stretching their video to 16:9.) And like Jake, the success/failure rate on my Mac is woeful. Still, LR always encourages people to take risks. We don't then smack 'em when the risks don't work out. Thom:

Nobody is more spin-sensitive than I. But I also don’t automatically slam something that doesn’t succeed. And I think Pipeline is a genuinely interesting product. I did not think it was going to succeed as a pay model, but I do think it is a good product and I always salute companies no matter how big or small for taking risks.

(Disclosure: I interviewed to be one of the original Pipeline producers.)

“Pipeline” did not succeed as a pay model. Absolutely not. But I do think it was innovative. And they tried something unique. Surely that’s worth celebrating in a universe of homogeneity and fear of trying anything different.

I don’t see much good in giving CNN a pasting for trying. Like you, there are parts to the site I like and parts I don’t. (I’ll never understand the obsession with stretching their video to 16:9.) And like Jake, the success/failure rate on my Mac is woeful. Still, LR always encourages people to take risks. We don’t then smack ‘em when the risks don’t work out.

]]> By: Jake http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-385447 Jake Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:45:47 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-385447 This is another plea to CNN: PLEASE!!! Stop with the weird proprietary player that handles SO poorly on macs and firefox. You want to create a video revolution and get more news to more people? Get out of the internet-explorer-microsoft-windows tunnel that is restricting your goals. PS - real media, how are you doing these days? This is another plea to CNN:

PLEASE!!! Stop with the weird proprietary player that handles SO poorly on macs and firefox. You want to create a video revolution and get more news to more people? Get out of the internet-explorer-microsoft-windows tunnel that is restricting your goals.

PS - real media, how are you doing these days?

]]> By: Thom http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-385067 Thom Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:07:56 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-385067 Safran, I'm not sure I understand "opening it up rather than abandoning it." This product was concieved as subscription downloadable application. All of those elements have failed. They aren't even keeping the name. They are abandoning it. Pre 2001, CNN.com had multiple live streams on the site when there was interesting news (in multiple formats). Seven or so years later, they're back to where they were. We haven't seen how the are going to present the new live streams in the site. But since the technology has advanced in the last seven years, it will undoubtedly be better than the old pop-up player. There are definitely some parts of the old and new CNN.com that I really like. So I don't mean to be all negative. I just get a little frustrated when I see people picking up corporate spin like this. This product was a failure as it was implemented. It might have been cool to some user, but that doesn't mean that it was ever an innovative product or had a chance to be sustainable on subs. And we shouldn't be afraid to say it was a failure since it seems to have gotten them to (or back to) some things better -- free video integrated into the site. But we also shouldn't let them off too easy. Imagine what CNN.com would be like now if they hadn't wasted all that time resources on Pipeline. I bet it would be kick ass and be far beyond all of its competitors! Safran, I’m not sure I understand “opening it up rather than abandoning it.”

This product was concieved as subscription downloadable application. All of those elements have failed. They aren’t even keeping the name. They are abandoning it.

Pre 2001, CNN.com had multiple live streams on the site when there was interesting news (in multiple formats). Seven or so years later, they’re back to where they were.

We haven’t seen how the are going to present the new live streams in the site. But since the technology has advanced in the last seven years, it will undoubtedly be better than the old pop-up player.

There are definitely some parts of the old and new CNN.com that I really like. So I don’t mean to be all negative.

I just get a little frustrated when I see people picking up corporate spin like this. This product was a failure as it was implemented. It might have been cool to some user, but that doesn’t mean that it was ever an innovative product or had a chance to be sustainable on subs.

And we shouldn’t be afraid to say it was a failure since it seems to have gotten them to (or back to) some things better — free video integrated into the site.

But we also shouldn’t let them off too easy. Imagine what CNN.com would be like now if they hadn’t wasted all that time resources on Pipeline. I bet it would be kick ass and be far beyond all of its competitors!

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384879 Safran Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:18:12 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384879 George: I'll second that. George: I’ll second that.

]]> By: George Creedle http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384791 George Creedle Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:32:29 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384791 I'll use this post to plead with CNN (hopefully they'll see it) to STOP STRETCHING 4x3 video to 16x9. Strange for a news organization to distort their video - literally. I’ll use this post to plead with CNN (hopefully they’ll see it) to STOP STRETCHING 4×3 video to 16×9. Strange for a news organization to distort their video - literally.

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384446 Safran Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:55:53 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384446 I think it's great CNN tried this project. They took a big risk with it. I'm very pleased to see that they're opening it up rather than abandoning it. I think it’s great CNN tried this project. They took a big risk with it. I’m very pleased to see that they’re opening it up rather than abandoning it.

]]> By: tdc http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384428 tdc Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:41:55 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384428 in the words of emily litella- "never mind". cnn's beta site was just taken down...to relaunch 'this weekend' in the words of emily litella- “never mind”.

cnn’s beta site was just taken down…to relaunch ‘this weekend’

]]> By: tdc http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384395 tdc Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:23:34 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/06/26/too-few-people-subscribed-to-cnn-pipeline/#comment-384395 did i just read that aol is relaunching their news site on tuesday (next week) too? cnn's new beta site sure leaves alot to be desired. since lr posted a link i have been checking it only to find stories being updated a few times per WEEK. if the idea of a beta site is to hit the ground running... did i just read that aol is relaunching their news site on tuesday (next week) too?

cnn’s new beta site sure leaves alot to be desired. since lr posted a link i have been checking it only to find stories being updated a few times per WEEK.

if the idea of a beta site is to hit the ground running…

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