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	<title>Comments on: Internet Broadcasting turns former WCCO site back on</title>
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		<title>By: discreet_chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-440006</link>
		<dc:creator>discreet_chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My kingdom for the old "preview" button, where hopefully, I wouldn't make so many speed-related errors within a single comment.

PS) I need a Twizzler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My kingdom for the old &#8220;preview&#8221; button, where hopefully, I wouldn&#8217;t make so many speed-related errors within a single comment.</p>
<p>PS) I need a Twizzler.</p>
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		<title>By: discreet_chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439984</link>
		<dc:creator>discreet_chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex - After I posted my question, I realized that though I see your "badge" on your site, I don't "follow" you and I originally learned about your Twitter because it was mirrored onto the MNspeak blog. Perhaps, if MSM has someone like yourself, who has ties to a community and Twitter-friends among its populace, it could work as a way to get tips or as in the recent case, the tweets could be an easy way to reach out to a segemnt of the blogosphere, but as you say - The fact that the general public doesn't have immediate access to the tweets (except maybe through that map mash-up that Scoble linked the other day or something similar), it probably has very limited value in these situations.

I just thought it was neat that you had tried and I wondered if it had bore any fruit.

Also, I kind of like Rick's idea of an outlet creating a Twitter account for something less than a breaking news story, but because I'm outside of the Valley, I've found that I have to explain Twitter and the further away you get, the less-value such a venture might have. 

Though still, a Twitter account is free, so it wouldn't cos a lot to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex - After I posted my question, I realized that though I see your &#8220;badge&#8221; on your site, I don&#8217;t &#8220;follow&#8221; you and I originally learned about your Twitter because it was mirrored onto the MNspeak blog. Perhaps, if MSM has someone like yourself, who has ties to a community and Twitter-friends among its populace, it could work as a way to get tips or as in the recent case, the tweets could be an easy way to reach out to a segemnt of the blogosphere, but as you say - The fact that the general public doesn&#8217;t have immediate access to the tweets (except maybe through that map mash-up that Scoble linked the other day or something similar), it probably has very limited value in these situations.</p>
<p>I just thought it was neat that you had tried and I wondered if it had bore any fruit.</p>
<p>Also, I kind of like Rick&#8217;s idea of an outlet creating a Twitter account for something less than a breaking news story, but because I&#8217;m outside of the Valley, I&#8217;ve found that I have to explain Twitter and the further away you get, the less-value such a venture might have. </p>
<p>Though still, a Twitter account is free, so it wouldn&#8217;t cos a lot to try.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439951</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Rex, but I would argue that community and communication and broadcasting/publishing aren't mutually exclusive.

But back to Twitter. I think it's one of those things that an interesting technology looking for a killer use. Using it as a way to send "hey, guess what I had for lunch" messages to friends seems like overkill. But it doesn't quite work as a one-way broadcast medium, either.

FWIW, I think using it for something like very specific breaking news makes sense.

Say, a twitter account that would send a message every time Barry Bonds was at bat (until he broke the record). 

Of course, I could be a completly wrong about this. Actually, it's probably likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Rex, but I would argue that community and communication and broadcasting/publishing aren&#8217;t mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>But back to Twitter. I think it&#8217;s one of those things that an interesting technology looking for a killer use. Using it as a way to send &#8220;hey, guess what I had for lunch&#8221; messages to friends seems like overkill. But it doesn&#8217;t quite work as a one-way broadcast medium, either.</p>
<p>FWIW, I think using it for something like very specific breaking news makes sense.</p>
<p>Say, a twitter account that would send a message every time Barry Bonds was at bat (until he broke the record). </p>
<p>Of course, I could be a completly wrong about this. Actually, it&#8217;s probably likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gay</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439800</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Raises hand.* Is a Twitter like a Twizzler? Those make my mouth happy.

It's Friday. You know you smiled when you thought of a Twizzler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Raises hand.* Is a Twitter like a Twizzler? Those make my mouth happy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Friday. You know you smiled when you thought of a Twizzler.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439700</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sorta disagree with that... Twitter works absolutely perfectly for what it's supposed to do... but Twitter just isn't made for MSM people to broadcast their messages... it's about community and communication, not broadcasting and publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sorta disagree with that&#8230; Twitter works absolutely perfectly for what it&#8217;s supposed to do&#8230; but Twitter just isn&#8217;t made for MSM people to broadcast their messages&#8230; it&#8217;s about community and communication, not broadcasting and publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439590</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter is one of those things that should work better than it does. Part of it is scale, I think. I've read that they have about 500,000 active users, which is big, but perhaps not big enough to be useful nationally.

We tried it with the Emmy nominations a few weeks back. We sent the major noms via a Twitter account to maybe 300 people. And while it worked fine, I don't know that it's worth doing on an ongoing basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter is one of those things that should work better than it does. Part of it is scale, I think. I&#8217;ve read that they have about 500,000 active users, which is big, but perhaps not big enough to be useful nationally.</p>
<p>We tried it with the Emmy nominations a few weeks back. We sent the major noms via a Twitter account to maybe 300 people. And while it worked fine, I don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s worth doing on an ongoing basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-439413</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's an interesting question... Twitter is becoming a good source for gathering information (it's the place I first found out about the bridge accident). However, it doesn't seem to be the best place to make requests... the way relationships work, it's not broadcasty.

Anyway, I have 300+ followers on Twitter, and maybe one-fourth are Minneapolites. None of them seemed to have any first-hand accounts or media. (And, thankfully, all of them were safe.) 

We (MSNBC.com) did really well on the UGC front, but nothing came in via Twitter -- a lot did come through other personal relationships, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting question&#8230; Twitter is becoming a good source for gathering information (it&#8217;s the place I first found out about the bridge accident). However, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be the best place to make requests&#8230; the way relationships work, it&#8217;s not broadcasty.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have 300+ followers on Twitter, and maybe one-fourth are Minneapolites. None of them seemed to have any first-hand accounts or media. (And, thankfully, all of them were safe.) </p>
<p>We (MSNBC.com) did really well on the UGC front, but nothing came in via Twitter &#8212; a lot did come through other personal relationships, though.</p>
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		<title>By: tmc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-438738</link>
		<dc:creator>tmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very cool how they are simply AGGREGATING the existing resources on the ground.

yesterday's links to streams are now links to specific stories at various local stations.

AND 

links to local bloggers - although the one that is label "mexico" does not belong. otherwise, me thinks they have stumbled upon a new business model.

go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very cool how they are simply AGGREGATING the existing resources on the ground.</p>
<p>yesterday&#8217;s links to streams are now links to specific stories at various local stations.</p>
<p>AND </p>
<p>links to local bloggers - although the one that is label &#8220;mexico&#8221; does not belong. otherwise, me thinks they have stumbled upon a new business model.</p>
<p>go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: discreet_chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-438101</link>
		<dc:creator>discreet_chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction - I should've said "twittered". I wouldn't want to make anyone sound callous and am mostly wondering about the function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction - I should&#8217;ve said &#8220;twittered&#8221;. I wouldn&#8217;t want to make anyone sound callous and am mostly wondering about the function.</p>
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		<title>By: discreet_chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-438099</link>
		<dc:creator>discreet_chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semi-Related, but still...

Hey Rex - I saw that you were twittering for witnesses, video and the like, once things got rolling. Considering all of the questions about the reach of Twitter outside of the Valley - How'd that work for ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semi-Related, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>Hey Rex - I saw that you were twittering for witnesses, video and the like, once things got rolling. Considering all of the questions about the reach of Twitter outside of the Valley - How&#8217;d that work for ya?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-437936</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To springboard off TMC's comments, on one hand, it's exciting that they - IB and their Channel4000 site - were able to build a destination from the ground up within hours. 

On the other hand, it's scary that they don't have any affiliation with a station in Minneapolis. If they could do it there, what does that say about their ability to aggregate content and localize it if something like that ever happened in my neighborhood?

And as for traffic I totally agree TMC and Jason. We saw a moderate spike in traffic yesterday as we did after the Virginia Tech shootings and we're nowhere near either location. The online "market" really is global.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To springboard off TMC&#8217;s comments, on one hand, it&#8217;s exciting that they - IB and their Channel4000 site - were able to build a destination from the ground up within hours. </p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s scary that they don&#8217;t have any affiliation with a station in Minneapolis. If they could do it there, what does that say about their ability to aggregate content and localize it if something like that ever happened in my neighborhood?</p>
<p>And as for traffic I totally agree TMC and Jason. We saw a moderate spike in traffic yesterday as we did after the Virginia Tech shootings and we&#8217;re nowhere near either location. The online &#8220;market&#8221; really is global.</p>
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		<title>By: tmc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-437897</link>
		<dc:creator>tmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omgosh, look at all those glorious links to OTHER stations in town.

seems like only days ago someone was commenting that amid the helicopter crash in phoenix one station refused to even acknowledge the competition.

how quickly the internet teaches.

cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omgosh, look at all those glorious links to OTHER stations in town.</p>
<p>seems like only days ago someone was commenting that amid the helicopter crash in phoenix one station refused to even acknowledge the competition.</p>
<p>how quickly the internet teaches.</p>
<p>cool.</p>
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		<title>By: tmc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-437874</link>
		<dc:creator>tmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps. i see LR made google's 1st page of results when one submits 'minneapolis bridge'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. i see LR made google&#8217;s 1st page of results when one submits &#8216;minneapolis bridge&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: tmc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-437872</link>
		<dc:creator>tmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>errr, i was referring to wisn.com, but that's ok.

i found that odd too since milwaukee is a long walk from minneapolis.


the "problem" with jason's 'assurance' is quite common; nd's look at this traffic spike and might think it'll last forever. 

if something major happens tomorrow in BFE the traffic will be gone. if not, in a few days it will be. just look at graphs for wlky.com when the story (heartbreaking as it was) broke about the young girl losing both her feet to an amusement ride.

that's why it is essential ALL you guys realize your traffic is from EVERYWHERE online and plan accordingly.

you are now global.

carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>errr, i was referring to wisn.com, but that&#8217;s ok.</p>
<p>i found that odd too since milwaukee is a long walk from minneapolis.</p>
<p>the &#8220;problem&#8221; with jason&#8217;s &#8216;assurance&#8217; is quite common; nd&#8217;s look at this traffic spike and might think it&#8217;ll last forever. </p>
<p>if something major happens tomorrow in BFE the traffic will be gone. if not, in a few days it will be. just look at graphs for wlky.com when the story (heartbreaking as it was) broke about the young girl losing both her feet to an amusement ride.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s why it is essential ALL you guys realize your traffic is from EVERYWHERE online and plan accordingly.</p>
<p>you are now global.</p>
<p>carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/02/internet-broadcasting-turns-former-wcco-site-back-on/#comment-437857</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assure you there's plenty of web traffic to go around on this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assure you there&#8217;s plenty of web traffic to go around on this story.</p>
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