Comments on: ‘Vs. Thinking’ Watch: OPA in London http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/ Where TV Finds the Future Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:12:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jon Garfunkel http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-472296 Jon Garfunkel Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:41:06 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-472296 Steve-- My full research from March regarding TPM's role in the AG story is here: http://civilities.net/TalkingPointsMeme They deserve tremendous credit, but at the time, some of the credit they were given was a bit over-the-top. As always, there were other "big" stories that the rest of the media-- and many blogs-- were focusing on: Libby trial, Walter Reed, the 2008 campaign, the Iraq surge. Steve– My full research from March regarding TPM’s role in the AG story is here:

http://civilities.net/TalkingPointsMeme

They deserve tremendous credit, but at the time, some of the credit they were given was a bit over-the-top. As always, there were other “big” stories that the rest of the media– and many blogs– were focusing on: Libby trial, Walter Reed, the 2008 campaign, the Iraq surge.

]]> By: joe http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471489 joe Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:52:05 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471489 Wasn't it KHOU in Houston that exposed the problem with Firestone tires on Ford Explorers? Sounds like a TV station breaking a big story to me! Wasn’t it KHOU in Houston that exposed the problem with Firestone tires on Ford Explorers? Sounds like a TV station breaking a big story to me!

]]> By: Steve Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471132 Steve Safran Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:22:37 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471132 Roll Call broke that story. "The Official Newspaper of Capitol Hill Since 1955." Sounds like a shady organization to me. Roll Call broke that story. “The Official Newspaper of Capitol Hill Since 1955.”

Sounds like a shady organization to me.

]]> By: Z http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471117 Z Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:10:55 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-471117 Not as much as Dan Rather. I thought Gonzales was a group effort, personally. Where did the first word on Sen. Craig's bathroom trip come from? Not as much as Dan Rather. I thought Gonzales was a group effort, personally.

Where did the first word on Sen. Craig’s bathroom trip come from?

]]> By: Amy Gahran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470993 Amy Gahran Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:41:02 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470993 Great post, Steve. As I look toward my grueling upcoming travel schedule of the next few months, which includes speaking gigs at several journalism conferences, I too am weary of the "vs thinking," especially regarding online media. I just let our fellow journalists know of your "Vs. thinking watch" over at Poynter's E-Media Tidbits. http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=31&aid=129161 Keep up the good work, - Amy Gahran Great post, Steve. As I look toward my grueling upcoming travel schedule of the next few months, which includes speaking gigs at several journalism conferences, I too am weary of the “vs thinking,” especially regarding online media.

I just let our fellow journalists know of your “Vs. thinking watch” over at Poynter’s E-Media Tidbits.

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=31&aid=129161

Keep up the good work,

- Amy Gahran

]]> By: Steve Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470776 Steve Safran Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:51:36 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470776 Oooh... interesting point. See, I first heard about the Gonzales thing on NPR, days before it broke elsewhere. (They interviewed one of the fired attorneys who was about to break the scandal wide open.) So I didn't associate it with bloggers being the primary engine of the story. Do the rest of the LR Faithful see Gonzales as a "blogger bringdown?" Oooh… interesting point. See, I first heard about the Gonzales thing on NPR, days before it broke elsewhere. (They interviewed one of the fired attorneys who was about to break the scandal wide open.) So I didn’t associate it with bloggers being the primary engine of the story. Do the rest of the LR Faithful see Gonzales as a “blogger bringdown?”

]]> By: tdc http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470770 tdc Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:42:23 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470770 bloggers are beholden to no one. tv is beholden to its advertisers. its advertisers are beholden to .... you get the picture. bloggers are beholden to no one.

tv is beholden to its advertisers.

its advertisers are beholden to ….

you get the picture.

]]> By: Drew Robertson http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470765 Drew Robertson Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:36:57 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470765 Anonymous made my first point. My second point is when was the last time network or local news could make a similar kind of "we brought down...." claim. Blogs and papers can do it but TV? Anonymous made my first point. My second point is when was the last time network or local news could make a similar kind of “we brought down….” claim. Blogs and papers can do it but TV?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470757 Anonymous Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:26:00 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/08/28/vs-thinking-watch-opa-in-london/#comment-470757 Bloggers: "We brought down Alberto Gonzales!" Remember, the rest of the press paid no attention to the mass firings of attorneys. It took months of exclusive reporting on Talking Points Memo before the rest of the media realized there was a story there. Bloggers: “We brought down Alberto Gonzales!”

Remember, the rest of the press paid no attention to the mass firings of attorneys. It took months of exclusive reporting on Talking Points Memo before the rest of the media realized there was a story there.

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