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	<title>Comments on: TV news video appearing on BreitBartTV.com</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-499268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, tdc, but this is not happening right now.  So I'm proposing maximizing the opportunities within the current reality.

There's lots of news sites on the web, lots of video sites, many are far superior than any local television station's site.  What can our site do better?  LOCAL.  Maximize that, and you really win.

(example: Cory's Citizen Rain effort in Seattle.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, tdc, but this is not happening right now.  So I&#8217;m proposing maximizing the opportunities within the current reality.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s lots of news sites on the web, lots of video sites, many are far superior than any local television station&#8217;s site.  What can our site do better?  LOCAL.  Maximize that, and you really win.</p>
<p>(example: Cory&#8217;s Citizen Rain effort in Seattle.)</p>
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		<title>By: tdc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498562</link>
		<dc:creator>tdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is where all your prior years in the business work against you. why can't you sell those ads for your "client's furniture store" and have a partnership with others so when your local audience travels the world online they get served your ads just like they do when they visit your 'local' site? this would work with all the incoming fark, yt and now breitbart users in reverse.

you win because you sell the ad. your client wins because he/she gets the message to a viable target and the internet user wins because they get a message they can use. and it's all local.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is where all your prior years in the business work against you. why can&#8217;t you sell those ads for your &#8220;client&#8217;s furniture store&#8221; and have a partnership with others so when your local audience travels the world online they get served your ads just like they do when they visit your &#8216;local&#8217; site? this would work with all the incoming fark, yt and now breitbart users in reverse.</p>
<p>you win because you sell the ad. your client wins because he/she gets the message to a viable target and the internet user wins because they get a message they can use. and it&#8217;s all local.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498534</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose any extra traffic is good traffic... but I think the key for local TV stations is to win locally.  As a local blogger and reporter, I want the biggest audience possible.  So I'm all for getting out-of-market people to see my stuff.

But if I were selling ads, I'd want to win locally, and get local people to our site.  I wouldn't really care about the Fark or the BreitBart or the YouTube traffic.  I want people who are going to come and visit my client's furniture store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose any extra traffic is good traffic&#8230; but I think the key for local TV stations is to win locally.  As a local blogger and reporter, I want the biggest audience possible.  So I&#8217;m all for getting out-of-market people to see my stuff.</p>
<p>But if I were selling ads, I&#8217;d want to win locally, and get local people to our site.  I wouldn&#8217;t really care about the Fark or the BreitBart or the YouTube traffic.  I want people who are going to come and visit my client&#8217;s furniture store.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498352</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, our traffic reporting system - Google Analytics - is showing we're getting some traffic from YT to our website.

Not to blow sunshine here, but I can't be completely forthright with tangible numbers (I work for a TV station in competition with the local Belo affiliate). But we are seeing a small amount of traffic from the one site to the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, our traffic reporting system - Google Analytics - is showing we&#8217;re getting some traffic from YT to our website.</p>
<p>Not to blow sunshine here, but I can&#8217;t be completely forthright with tangible numbers (I work for a TV station in competition with the local Belo affiliate). But we are seeing a small amount of traffic from the one site to the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498325</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I'd like to see some evidence that the people who are watching on YouTube (or breitBart) are coming to your website.  I find that somewhat hard to believe, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I&#8217;d like to see some evidence that the people who are watching on YouTube (or breitBart) are coming to your website.  I find that somewhat hard to believe, but I&#8217;m happy to be proved wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498226</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!  - Thanks man. Yeah I remember when having a YT page was unheard of, but management here sees it as a really powerful tool to promote our content and share it with the community in the hopes they'll watch our newscasts and visit our website.

Cory - Whether its a headline, a lead paragraph or an entire video clip it's still profiting in a fashion from someone else's content. The amount of content is irrelevant as long as you are profiting from someone else's work.

Brink - The point I was trying to make is that posting content to YouTube gets people exposed to our content in the hopes that they do one of two things. One, they come to our website for more content - we don't post everything on YouTube - where they see more of our content with our pre-rolls and our advertisements. Two, they see our content on YouTube and maybe they tune in to our TV newscasts to see more.

Either way, the potential migration of community members from YouTube to our website or our newscasts means increasing traffic on our branded products and either way our advertisers win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!  - Thanks man. Yeah I remember when having a YT page was unheard of, but management here sees it as a really powerful tool to promote our content and share it with the community in the hopes they&#8217;ll watch our newscasts and visit our website.</p>
<p>Cory - Whether its a headline, a lead paragraph or an entire video clip it&#8217;s still profiting in a fashion from someone else&#8217;s content. The amount of content is irrelevant as long as you are profiting from someone else&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Brink - The point I was trying to make is that posting content to YouTube gets people exposed to our content in the hopes that they do one of two things. One, they come to our website for more content - we don&#8217;t post everything on YouTube - where they see more of our content with our pre-rolls and our advertisements. Two, they see our content on YouTube and maybe they tune in to our TV newscasts to see more.</p>
<p>Either way, the potential migration of community members from YouTube to our website or our newscasts means increasing traffic on our branded products and either way our advertisers win.</p>
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		<title>By: Brink</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498130</link>
		<dc:creator>Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"To me it matters that wherever they are seeing our content they are still seeing our content."

To our advertisers, it matters if they're seeing OUR advertisements. They couldn't care less if  250,000 people watch our video on YOUR site with YOUR ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To me it matters that wherever they are seeing our content they are still seeing our content.&#8221;</p>
<p>To our advertisers, it matters if they&#8217;re seeing OUR advertisements. They couldn&#8217;t care less if  250,000 people watch our video on YOUR site with YOUR ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498061</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, there's a difference between LINKING other people's content and surrounding those links and short summaries with your ads... and completely EMBEDDING other people's content from start to finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, there&#8217;s a difference between LINKING other people&#8217;s content and surrounding those links and short summaries with your ads&#8230; and completely EMBEDDING other people&#8217;s content from start to finish.</p>
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		<title>By: !</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498020</link>
		<dc:creator>!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rob, congrats (belatedly albeit) on the yt channel. (remember when having one of those was nearly unheard of by tv stations?)

if memory serves you were the one who kept mentioning how the idea was s-l-o-w-l-y being considered (and rejected)... and how the mentions here of its value were pushing you to make the case.

course, if that was someone else, i apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rob, congrats (belatedly albeit) on the yt channel. (remember when having one of those was nearly unheard of by tv stations?)</p>
<p>if memory serves you were the one who kept mentioning how the idea was s-l-o-w-l-y being considered (and rejected)&#8230; and how the mentions here of its value were pushing you to make the case.</p>
<p>course, if that was someone else, i apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-498004</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note ... we've had a YouTube channel since late Spring and I have no problem with Breitbart if they started swiping our videos. YouTube is a content sharing platform but it's also a promotional platform. People will see our content and the trend we've seen is that some of them come to our website for more. 

To me it doesn't matter from a promotional perspective if they see our content on YouTube, embedded in a blog or on Breitbart. To me it matters that wherever they are seeing our content they are still seeing our content.

One concession I'll give is that KING doesn't appear to a YT channel yet there are people out there posting your content (especially news bloopers). In that case, if that were happening to me yeah I'd get ticked off if someone was aggregating my content without my consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note &#8230; we&#8217;ve had a YouTube channel since late Spring and I have no problem with Breitbart if they started swiping our videos. YouTube is a content sharing platform but it&#8217;s also a promotional platform. People will see our content and the trend we&#8217;ve seen is that some of them come to our website for more. </p>
<p>To me it doesn&#8217;t matter from a promotional perspective if they see our content on YouTube, embedded in a blog or on Breitbart. To me it matters that wherever they are seeing our content they are still seeing our content.</p>
<p>One concession I&#8217;ll give is that KING doesn&#8217;t appear to a YT channel yet there are people out there posting your content (especially news bloopers). In that case, if that were happening to me yeah I&#8217;d get ticked off if someone was aggregating my content without my consent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-497993</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about this last night Cory ... you and I both aggregate news content from other news organizations and surround that content with our advertising right? 

So what's different here with Breitbart pulling copyrighted video from public domain websites where the intent was to publish the content so it could be aggregated?

Personally I don't see a difference. The second you slap Breitbart's hand we have to take a hard look at what we're doing ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this last night Cory &#8230; you and I both aggregate news content from other news organizations and surround that content with our advertising right? </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s different here with Breitbart pulling copyrighted video from public domain websites where the intent was to publish the content so it could be aggregated?</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t see a difference. The second you slap Breitbart&#8217;s hand we have to take a hard look at what we&#8217;re doing ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Brink</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-497867</link>
		<dc:creator>Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, sue 'em.

The days of the wild west internet, where anything goes, are long past. If you don't protect your copyright, others make money from your content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, sue &#8216;em.</p>
<p>The days of the wild west internet, where anything goes, are long past. If you don&#8217;t protect your copyright, others make money from your content.</p>
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		<title>By: tdc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-497254</link>
		<dc:creator>tdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>psst. 

it's just breitbart.tv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>psst. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s just breitbart.tv</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-497202</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, that may work for the stations that post their video to YouTube willingly, which right now is just the Hearst stations, like KCRA.  But the rest of us are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, that may work for the stations that post their video to YouTube willingly, which right now is just the Hearst stations, like KCRA.  But the rest of us are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/09/20/local-tv-news-video-appearing-on-breitbarttvcom/#comment-497134</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ What baker said.

Locally, KCRA puts a selection of their news stories on DaTube. I don't think they care if someone embeds the video - or even makes a few AdSense bucks on it - KCRA's logo featured prominently, and the embedded video is usually only 2-3 clicks from KCRA's site.

They should be thankful that an aggregator like Breitbart is using their material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ What baker said.</p>
<p>Locally, KCRA puts a selection of their news stories on DaTube. I don&#8217;t think they care if someone embeds the video - or even makes a few AdSense bucks on it - KCRA&#8217;s logo featured prominently, and the embedded video is usually only 2-3 clicks from KCRA&#8217;s site.</p>
<p>They should be thankful that an aggregator like Breitbart is using their material.</p>
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