Comments on: Zucker is an ‘AT&T puppet’ http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/ Where TV Finds the Future Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:52:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514788 Safran Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:41:22 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514788 Except that our beards aren't as glorious, yes. Except that our beards aren’t as glorious, yes.

]]> By: NewMediaGuy http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514431 NewMediaGuy Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:51:43 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514431 i've seen the pitch. It's a variation on Jarvis' which is "pay attention to me because i am right and if you don't you will die." i’ve seen the pitch. It’s a variation on Jarvis’ which is “pay attention to me because i am right and if you don’t you will die.”

]]> By: Steve Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514096 Steve Safran Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:54:25 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-514096 You're right. That's actually how Terry and I pitch prospective clients: "Nobody should make money off the web except for us. Now pay up!" You’re right. That’s actually how Terry and I pitch prospective clients: “Nobody should make money off the web except for us. Now pay up!”

]]> By: newmediaguy http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513424 newmediaguy Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:59:01 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513424 Come on with the "puppet" stuff. Anybody who views the Internet as a business which it is and owned content as what it is i.e. owned, automatically becomes a bad person in the eyes of all you guys. It is a business and the reason Heaton is making money with all his consulting and you are too Safran is because you are leveraging an existing BUSINESS to make a buck. Give us a break please with your purity. A small break? Come on with the “puppet” stuff.

Anybody who views the Internet as a business which it is and owned content as what it is i.e. owned, automatically becomes a bad person in the eyes of all you guys.

It is a business and the reason Heaton is making money with all his consulting and you are too Safran is because you are leveraging an existing BUSINESS to make a buck.

Give us a break please with your purity.

A small break?

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513295 Terry Heaton Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:29:28 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513295 Amanda, AT&T has already proven that it will filter, as in the censoring of the band <a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2007/08/09/att-plays-gatekeeper-censors-pearl-jam/" rel="nofollow">Pearl Jam</a>. I appreciate the status they enjoy and how such filtering might jeopardize that, but they speak with forked tongue. Amanda, AT&T has already proven that it will filter, as in the censoring of the band Pearl Jam. I appreciate the status they enjoy and how such filtering might jeopardize that, but they speak with forked tongue.

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513276 Safran Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:11:27 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513276 Thank you, Amanda, for that good info, Thank you, Amanda, for that good info,

]]> By: Amanda Emily http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513216 Amanda Emily Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:55:58 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/04/zucker-is-an-att-puppet/#comment-513216 AT&T's Internet service is classified by the FCC as an "Enhanced Service Provider" (mostly to exempt ISPs from having to pay into the Universal Service Fund) which gives them a USC 17 Chapt. 5 § 512 status - so they are not liable for ANYTHING that goes over their network. If you filter it, you're responsible for everything on that network. Read section A(5) in the URL linked in my name You really think they want to give that privilege up? And technically AT&T's Internet division is not a telco, the two divisions are kept strictly separate as to not impact AT&T telephone service's common carrier status since "Enhanced Service Provider" is not quite true common carrier status. I won't get into the moral implications of the fourth estate implying advocation of censorship and violations of the first amendment. AT&T’s Internet service is classified by the FCC as an “Enhanced Service Provider” (mostly to exempt ISPs from having to pay into the Universal Service Fund) which gives them a USC 17 Chapt. 5 § 512 status - so they are not liable for ANYTHING that goes over their network. If you filter it, you’re responsible for everything on that network. Read section A(5) in the URL linked in my name

You really think they want to give that privilege up?

And technically AT&T’s Internet division is not a telco, the two divisions are kept strictly separate as to not impact AT&T telephone service’s common carrier status since “Enhanced Service Provider” is not quite true common carrier status.

I won’t get into the moral implications of the fourth estate implying advocation of censorship and violations of the first amendment.

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