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	<title>Comments on: AP sues news aggregator for linking, scraping</title>
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	<description>Where TV Finds the Future</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-521986</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps book publishers should sue all these sites that list all their titles without licensing the books' copyrights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps book publishers should sue all these sites that list all their titles without licensing the books&#8217; copyrights.</p>
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		<title>By: Gorman</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-521891</link>
		<dc:creator>Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headlines aren't necessarily ads. Most of the time it gives you the jist of a story, and if it's a subject that doesn't interest you, the basic jist is all you need, and you don't have to click on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headlines aren&#8217;t necessarily ads. Most of the time it gives you the jist of a story, and if it&#8217;s a subject that doesn&#8217;t interest you, the basic jist is all you need, and you don&#8217;t have to click on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-521143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP's content is its stories, not its headlines.  Its headlines are just ads for its stories.  Moreover is putting free AP ads all over the Internet, driving people to licensed AP stories.  Why is the AP complaining about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP&#8217;s content is its stories, not its headlines.  Its headlines are just ads for its stories.  Moreover is putting free AP ads all over the Internet, driving people to licensed AP stories.  Why is the AP complaining about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520924</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innovation is great, and brings customers for a while.. but innovation never trumps  free in today's pay-attention-to-the-bottom-line-first journalism environment.

Note that I was not defending AP in my post, nor advocating lawyers being involved - I just don't see that _anyone_ can avoid having their content taken - they can merely hope to receive compensation after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovation is great, and brings customers for a while.. but innovation never trumps  free in today&#8217;s pay-attention-to-the-bottom-line-first journalism environment.</p>
<p>Note that I was not defending AP in my post, nor advocating lawyers being involved - I just don&#8217;t see that _anyone_ can avoid having their content taken - they can merely hope to receive compensation after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520892</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm, I see a reference to Google here.... interesting. Now go to Google News and see it there are any AP articles. I think I know where you can find them though : ). Follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, I see a reference to Google here&#8230;. interesting. Now go to Google News and see it there are any AP articles. I think I know where you can find them though : ). Follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: tdc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520763</link>
		<dc:creator>tdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there sure is  technological solution... innovation.

on the local level one might start by acknowledging the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there sure is  technological solution&#8230; innovation.</p>
<p>on the local level one might start by acknowledging the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520755</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Shakespeare: "First, bring in the lawyers"

The problem with all online text content is that once it's on a web page it's trivial to retrieve it.  Since most AP customers are going to put those stories on their web site,  some aggregator will end up just scraping from multiple sources one or two layers removed from AP.  Wherever the last legal source is, that's where the news-harvesters will get it from.


 I don't think there's a technological solution - therefore the lawyers are brought in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Shakespeare: &#8220;First, bring in the lawyers&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with all online text content is that once it&#8217;s on a web page it&#8217;s trivial to retrieve it.  Since most AP customers are going to put those stories on their web site,  some aggregator will end up just scraping from multiple sources one or two layers removed from AP.  Wherever the last legal source is, that&#8217;s where the news-harvesters will get it from.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a technological solution - therefore the lawyers are brought in.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520753</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP has to.... oh - Terry beat me to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP has to&#8230;. oh - Terry beat me to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Heaton</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520727</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP monopoly is interested only in the AP monopoly, and not its members. This is evidenced by the new relationship with Google, so this action strikes me as hypocritical, because they're doing the same thing (profiting off of someone else's content) as Moreover. At least Moreover provides a link to the source. AP doesn't even do that.

The idea that you can create scarcity in a world of abundance is archaic, at best. Just ask the music industry. 

Most observers view the tactic of circling the wagons as last-ditch attempts at survival, and that's what's taking place here. Protect your content by suing aggregators if you wish, but know that you're risking irrelevance in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP monopoly is interested only in the AP monopoly, and not its members. This is evidenced by the new relationship with Google, so this action strikes me as hypocritical, because they&#8217;re doing the same thing (profiting off of someone else&#8217;s content) as Moreover. At least Moreover provides a link to the source. AP doesn&#8217;t even do that.</p>
<p>The idea that you can create scarcity in a world of abundance is archaic, at best. Just ask the music industry. </p>
<p>Most observers view the tactic of circling the wagons as last-ditch attempts at survival, and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s taking place here. Protect your content by suing aggregators if you wish, but know that you&#8217;re risking irrelevance in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Brink</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/ap-sues-news-aggregator-for-linking-scraping/#comment-520708</link>
		<dc:creator>Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally. I can't understand why it took this long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally. I can&#8217;t understand why it took this long.</p>
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