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	<title>Comments on: NetJourn Summit: Jay Rosen&#8217;s &#8216;Six Lessons&#8217; of crowdsourcing</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/netjourn-summit-jay-rosens-six-lessons-of-crowdsourcing/#comment-521360</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I plead regional differences, man.  Where I am, "Can’t you just say 'meaningless stock footage' like everyone else?" is a lightened up way of putting things.  

I think it's funny, the way people complain about jargon.  You think it's funny the way people use it unto meaninglessness.  That they certainly do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I plead regional differences, man.  Where I am, &#8220;Can’t you just say &#8216;meaningless stock footage&#8217; like everyone else?&#8221; is a lightened up way of putting things.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s funny, the way people complain about jargon.  You think it&#8217;s funny the way people use it unto meaninglessness.  That they certainly do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/netjourn-summit-jay-rosens-six-lessons-of-crowdsourcing/#comment-521340</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... Jay I appreciate your passion but lighten up dude. It wasn't personal buddy. It's just TV...

I know people come up with "buzzwords" for a reason but the internet has seen quite few annoying ones that fizzle out or are said so much they've lost all meaning: like "hyperlocal" for instance. Plus, then they try to market industry buzzwords to John Q Public who doesn't know crap about anything. 

Also, I'm just one of those young people who rolls their eyes at a buzzword because it feels like some corporate executive is trying too hard.

Your idea is fantastic but next time, don't get so defensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Jay I appreciate your passion but lighten up dude. It wasn&#8217;t personal buddy. It&#8217;s just TV&#8230;</p>
<p>I know people come up with &#8220;buzzwords&#8221; for a reason but the internet has seen quite few annoying ones that fizzle out or are said so much they&#8217;ve lost all meaning: like &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; for instance. Plus, then they try to market industry buzzwords to John Q Public who doesn&#8217;t know crap about anything. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m just one of those young people who rolls their eyes at a buzzword because it feels like some corporate executive is trying too hard.</p>
<p>Your idea is fantastic but next time, don&#8217;t get so defensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/netjourn-summit-jay-rosens-six-lessons-of-crowdsourcing/#comment-520633</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay: Thanks for the corrections. I attribute the errors to my contemporaneous transcriptions and ferociously trying to keep up with all the great ideas. Your diction was just fine and your ideas were excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay: Thanks for the corrections. I attribute the errors to my contemporaneous transcriptions and ferociously trying to keep up with all the great ideas. Your diction was just fine and your ideas were excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/netjourn-summit-jay-rosens-six-lessons-of-crowdsourcing/#comment-520346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough with the whining about unfamiilar names.  Spend 20 minutes and find out what the names mean; you might learn something.  You think people invent new terms when the old ones are perfectly descriptive but they just want to annoy you?

Why do you journalists call it a "lede?"  Why not just say, "the first sentence," like everyone else in creation?  Why make us groan with confusing terms like B-roll?  Can't you just say "meaningless stock footage" like everyone else? 

Jeez.

Steve:  Thanks for live blogging.  Coupla corrections, probably due to my mumbling.

"At the moment that people give you the data, they have to be able to see how it fits into the data."

how it fits in the larger picture... is what I thought I said, or wanted to, or tried to and mumbled. 

You could call this “naturally occurring journalism.” 

I think I said, "naturally occurring distributed journalism."  Anyway that's what I meant.

"Marrying the energy of news to the bottom-up flow of citizen journalism is the sweet spot."

My correct version:  Marrying the discipline of news to the energy and bottom-up flow of citizen journalism is the sweet spot.

Sweet spot.  Can't you just say "best combination?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough with the whining about unfamiilar names.  Spend 20 minutes and find out what the names mean; you might learn something.  You think people invent new terms when the old ones are perfectly descriptive but they just want to annoy you?</p>
<p>Why do you journalists call it a &#8220;lede?&#8221;  Why not just say, &#8220;the first sentence,&#8221; like everyone else in creation?  Why make us groan with confusing terms like B-roll?  Can&#8217;t you just say &#8220;meaningless stock footage&#8221; like everyone else? </p>
<p>Jeez.</p>
<p>Steve:  Thanks for live blogging.  Coupla corrections, probably due to my mumbling.</p>
<p>&#8220;At the moment that people give you the data, they have to be able to see how it fits into the data.&#8221;</p>
<p>how it fits in the larger picture&#8230; is what I thought I said, or wanted to, or tried to and mumbled. </p>
<p>You could call this “naturally occurring journalism.” </p>
<p>I think I said, &#8220;naturally occurring distributed journalism.&#8221;  Anyway that&#8217;s what I meant.</p>
<p>&#8220;Marrying the energy of news to the bottom-up flow of citizen journalism is the sweet spot.&#8221;</p>
<p>My correct version:  Marrying the discipline of news to the energy and bottom-up flow of citizen journalism is the sweet spot.</p>
<p>Sweet spot.  Can&#8217;t you just say &#8220;best combination?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the crowdsourcing buzzword. Just a simple "participation" is much better, and less nauseating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the crowdsourcing buzzword. Just a simple &#8220;participation&#8221; is much better, and less nauseating.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/10/netjourn-summit-jay-rosens-six-lessons-of-crowdsourcing/#comment-520048</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough with the buzzwords... I love the idea but let's kill the word "crowdsourcing" now before people start saying it just to feel smart.  Bleh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough with the buzzwords&#8230; I love the idea but let&#8217;s kill the word &#8220;crowdsourcing&#8221; now before people start saying it just to feel smart.  Bleh&#8230;</p>
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