Comments on: A review of Hulu.com http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/ Where TV Finds the Future Thu, 22 May 2008 19:57:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: vm http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-946837 Sat, 10 May 2008 03:05:52 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-946837 To all the people who commented about Hulu's "viability" ... what say now? To Micheal and all who think like him above ... sounds like just the people who don't understand the potential, the technology, the market and ironically got burnt during the .com bust (yes, jumped on without knowing its risks and what it was) A TV makes you schedule your life around it. TV on the internet allows you to schedule the TV around yours without having to spend on the DVR, TiVo etc. I find myself not being disappointed if I miss a show if I know I can watch it online. The Ads on sites like NBC.com and Hulu.com are only 30 seconds. I would rather sit through 1.5 to 2 mins of ad to watch my show for free at my own time rather than pay $2 to iTunes, or watch the TV which has atleast 8-10 mins of ads every 1/2 hour. Seriously, you'd pay $2 per episode rather than sit through 90 seconds of ads? To all the people who commented about Hulu’s “viability” … what say now?

To Micheal and all who think like him above … sounds like just the people who don’t understand the potential, the technology, the market and ironically got burnt during the .com bust (yes, jumped on without knowing its risks and what it was)

A TV makes you schedule your life around it. TV on the internet allows you to schedule the TV around yours without having to spend on the DVR, TiVo etc. I find myself not being disappointed if I miss a show if I know I can watch it online.

The Ads on sites like NBC.com and Hulu.com are only 30 seconds. I would rather sit through 1.5 to 2 mins of ad to watch my show for free at my own time rather than pay $2 to iTunes, or watch the TV which has atleast 8-10 mins of ads every 1/2 hour. Seriously, you’d pay $2 per episode rather than sit through 90 seconds of ads?

]]> by: Michael Spencer http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-800104 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:26:53 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-800104 um, NBC? why can't I just pay $2 at the iTunes store for Lost? 'splain that again? are we sayin' you make more from the ads than from people paying for the shows? charge more, dudes. Yea, it's that important. Apple says 'no'? work it out. You know, so I can watch TV on my…what's that thing in the living room? a TV! Yea, that's the ticket. Sheesh. It must really be rocket science. um, NBC? why can’t I just pay $2 at the iTunes store for Lost? ’splain that again? are we sayin’ you make more from the ads than from people paying for the shows? charge more, dudes. Yea, it’s that important. Apple says ‘no’? work it out.

You know, so I can watch TV on my…what’s that thing in the living room? a TV!

Yea, that’s the ticket.

Sheesh. It must really be rocket science.

]]> by: Solo500 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-622754 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:22:31 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-622754 It is surprisingly good. I don't think pulling out of iTunes was a good idea, it would have been better to keep both streaming and downloads. But Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart? Awesome. It is surprisingly good. I don’t think pulling out of iTunes was a good idea, it would have been better to keep both streaming and downloads. But Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart? Awesome.

]]> by: Ivan http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-613394 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 06:24:04 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-613394 The content is great and I don't have any problem with it! The quality is far superior than expected. The content is great and I don’t have any problem with it! The quality is far superior than expected.

]]> by: Greg http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-607904 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:40:08 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-607904 I have been using the hulu beta. The idea is very cool. TV shows on demand. However, the streaming has been very slow for me with lots of hiccups. I tried from several different internet connections. The bottleneck is definitely on their servers. You get halfway through a show and it stops and freezes up. Very annoying. I have been using the hulu beta. The idea is very cool. TV shows on demand. However, the streaming has been very slow for me with lots of hiccups. I tried from several different internet connections. The bottleneck is definitely on their servers.

You get halfway through a show and it stops and freezes up. Very annoying.

]]> by: Rocker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-545200 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:33:31 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-545200 invitedmedia: re; "the post is about Hulu"...yes, but you said "professional content means hardly nothing online". I suppose anyone who's profession is in the content business is going to take issue with that. I don't really know if Hulu will last...but I suspect you formed your opinion even before finishing the press release back in March. I think they might surprise...but their real problem is going to be finding a viable business model, not finding an audience. The more people watch, and want ever better quality streams, the harder it will be for them to generate a decent margin (Hulu picks up all the bandwidth costs on Hulu.com as well as all their other distribution partners, or so I read). Even incorporating P2P might not help much. And, yeah, I guess there will come the pressure for too many ads. invitedmedia: re; “the post is about Hulu”…yes, but you said “professional content means hardly nothing online”. I suppose anyone who’s profession is in the content business is going to take issue with that.

I don’t really know if Hulu will last…but I suspect you formed your opinion even before finishing the press release back in March. I think they might surprise…but their real problem is going to be finding a viable business model, not finding an audience. The more people watch, and want ever better quality streams, the harder it will be for them to generate a decent margin (Hulu picks up all the bandwidth costs on Hulu.com as well as all their other distribution partners, or so I read). Even incorporating P2P might not help much. And, yeah, I guess there will come the pressure for too many ads.

]]> by: invitedmedia http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544812 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:09:33 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544812 late word from my focus group of one- less than 6 months til corporate starts calling them 'web channels'. late word from my focus group of one- less than 6 months til corporate starts calling them ‘web channels’.

]]> by: invitedmedia http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544807 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:56:30 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544807 who's the one overdosing on kool aid? the post is about hulu... the same folks who brought forward those game changers nbbc and ivillage live. i'll stick with my focus group of one. btw- terry heaton has a new essay that is really worth a read coincidentally. who’s the one overdosing on kool aid?

the post is about hulu… the same folks who brought forward those game changers nbbc and ivillage live.

i’ll stick with my focus group of one.

btw- terry heaton has a new essay that is really worth a read coincidentally.

]]> by: Evan Parker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544639 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:41:52 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544639 I'm still waiting for my invite. :( Any day now. I’m still waiting for my invite. :( Any day now.

]]> by: Rocker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544600 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:33:26 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544600 invitedmedia, your focus group of one is interesting, but leads you to the wrong conclusion. Social media is not going to replace professional media. What doesn't mean anything is the term "online". Most people will spend a certain amount of time farting around on YouTube, MySpace and Facebook, and a separate allocation of time to watch the Lord of the Rings (in the future, through a multiplicity of distribution channels of their choice). I don't see the demand for that content going away just because distribution options change/increase, and I don't see some schmuck in Peoria supplying it. And people blogging 3rd hand about what they read from other sources doesn't obviate the need for someone to "do real journalism" in the first place. We get the world is changing now. But don't overdose on the Kool Aid. And people "keeping themselves quite occupied"...careful or you'll go blind! invitedmedia, your focus group of one is interesting, but leads you to the wrong conclusion. Social media is not going to replace professional media. What doesn’t mean anything is the term “online”. Most people will spend a certain amount of time farting around on YouTube, MySpace and Facebook, and a separate allocation of time to watch the Lord of the Rings (in the future, through a multiplicity of distribution channels of their choice). I don’t see the demand for that content going away just because distribution options change/increase, and I don’t see some schmuck in Peoria supplying it. And people blogging 3rd hand about what they read from other sources doesn’t obviate the need for someone to “do real journalism” in the first place.

We get the world is changing now. But don’t overdose on the Kool Aid. And people “keeping themselves quite occupied”…careful or you’ll go blind!

]]> by: invitedmedia http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544525 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:13:34 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544525 here we go again "professional content" means hardly nothing online. people are keeping themselves quite occupied online without hulu and will continue to do so. trying to "train them to come to our content" as i read over on b&c's comments is a hoot. some entity tried the "tv at work" idea and there were some bosses who said "not on my clock". guys, if i want tv, i'll turn one on. haven't in over 8 weeks now and haven't missed much... except the screaming ads. here we go again “professional content” means hardly nothing online.

people are keeping themselves quite occupied online without hulu and will continue to do so.

trying to “train them to come to our content” as i read over on b&c’s comments is a hoot.

some entity tried the “tv at work” idea and there were some bosses who said “not on my clock”.

guys, if i want tv, i’ll turn one on. haven’t in over 8 weeks now and haven’t missed much… except the screaming ads.

]]> by: Rocker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544346 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:32 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544346 The evidence from the early primetime streaming initiatives of the networks is that most users will, in fact, tolerate ads in long form programming. And I also believe that most people ultimately will not choose to view pirated material when a better, legitimate option is available. Not to mention the fact that it's soon going to get a lot tougher (legally) for YouTube to make a living off of pirated content. Will there always be ways for the technically savvy, truly determined to steal video? Yes. But then, there always have been...the internet doesn't really change that. Most people understand a fair deal is either watching ads or paying to view professional content. The evidence from the early primetime streaming initiatives of the networks is that most users will, in fact, tolerate ads in long form programming. And I also believe that most people ultimately will not choose to view pirated material when a better, legitimate option is available. Not to mention the fact that it’s soon going to get a lot tougher (legally) for YouTube to make a living off of pirated content. Will there always be ways for the technically savvy, truly determined to steal video? Yes. But then, there always have been…the internet doesn’t really change that. Most people understand a fair deal is either watching ads or paying to view professional content.

]]> by: J$ http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544334 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:47:53 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544334 The big ol' elephant in the room is the ads. Just having less than TV may still be too much for most viewers. Most shows only run about 40-44 minutes running time, so while 5-10 minutes of ads would be significantly less than what's on TV, will internet users sit through that many? I doubt it. Especially if they can just go to YouTube to see the same content ad free (albeit in a lower quality). It's a mistake for broadcasters to think that internet audiences are just as captive as TV audiences. And I don't think it's a coincidence that the site was released for journalists to review before the ads were place. The big ol’ elephant in the room is the ads. Just having less than TV may still be too much for most viewers. Most shows only run about 40-44 minutes running time, so while 5-10 minutes of ads would be significantly less than what’s on TV, will internet users sit through that many? I doubt it. Especially if they can just go to YouTube to see the same content ad free (albeit in a lower quality).

It’s a mistake for broadcasters to think that internet audiences are just as captive as TV audiences. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the site was released for journalists to review before the ads were place.

]]> by: Rocker http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544314 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:08:42 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544314 Downloading will be important to offer as an option. A lot of betra users on the comment board are also complaining about the geo-filtering (can't watch outside the U.S.). But it is a very elegant site...most users can almost immediately intuitively grasp how to use the various features. I think the bottom line is, between the selection of video and quality of the application, this is the best place to go to watch professional video. Not sure I agree with Cory about the need for a user upload capabilitiy...that truly is YouTube's space. I think the strategy here is "they can have it" (as long as the user's aren't uploading copyrighted material)...Hulu will focus on "TV on the net". Downloading will be important to offer as an option. A lot of betra users on the comment board are also complaining about the geo-filtering (can’t watch outside the U.S.). But it is a very elegant site…most users can almost immediately intuitively grasp how to use the various features. I think the bottom line is, between the selection of video and quality of the application, this is the best place to go to watch professional video. Not sure I agree with Cory about the need for a user upload capabilitiy…that truly is YouTube’s space. I think the strategy here is “they can have it” (as long as the user’s aren’t uploading copyrighted material)…Hulu will focus on “TV on the net”.

]]> by: Hussman http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544301 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:46:26 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/10/29/a-review-of-hulucom/#comment-544301 Yeah, but a "beta experience" on a website doesn't cost you 20K+ Yeah, but a “beta experience” on a website doesn’t cost you 20K+

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