Comments on: Webcasting the Red Sox parade from a laptop http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/ Where TV Finds the Future Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:54:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Contrarian http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550618 Contrarian Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:49:33 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550618 So you did provide a professional-quality web cast of the parade, too, not just your handheld one? So you did provide a professional-quality web cast of the parade, too, not just your handheld one?

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550159 Safran Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:17:39 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550159 Again, you present us with a "Vs. Thinking" alert. We didn't substitute our regular budget for a low budget. We added a person (me) to provide something else. We're not about cheaper for the sake of cheaper. But we are about better use of your station's money, especially if that means you get to keep your job. You may not have noticed, but nobody has screamed "INVEST IN YOURSELVES MORE, PEOPLE" louder than we have. We have been sharp critics of those who take the low-budget way out. Go ahead and have the last word. I won't debate you further. We need contrarians, even those who won't stand behind their words with their names. Again, you present us with a “Vs. Thinking” alert. We didn’t substitute our regular budget for a low budget. We added a person (me) to provide something else. We’re not about cheaper for the sake of cheaper. But we are about better use of your station’s money, especially if that means you get to keep your job.

You may not have noticed, but nobody has screamed “INVEST IN YOURSELVES MORE, PEOPLE” louder than we have. We have been sharp critics of those who take the low-budget way out.

Go ahead and have the last word. I won’t debate you further. We need contrarians, even those who won’t stand behind their words with their names.

]]> By: Contrarian http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550108 Contrarian Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:30:25 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-550108 No, the quality WON'T come, because management will look at little experiments like this and decide that, "Hey, people will watch this with one guy shooting handheld video--why spend any money to do it right?" See, management doesn't share your exciting Vision for the Future. All they want is for you to show them how to do it cheaper. And you are. No, the quality WON’T come, because management will look at little experiments like this and decide that, “Hey, people will watch this with one guy shooting handheld video–why spend any money to do it right?”

See, management doesn’t share your exciting Vision for the Future. All they want is for you to show them how to do it cheaper.

And you are.

]]> By: thedetroitchannel http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-549878 thedetroitchannel Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:30:16 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-549878 dude, do you remember the "crappy" quality of cell phones years ago? i often refer to one of the FIRST cell phones ever. my folks had connections back then. around 1974 a 5 minute call cost about $10 and 3 minutes were static. the "quality" thing about delivery will come in time. "the quality" of the content is in the eyes of the user. that is what's gonna kill broadcasters- thinking their anchors on vacation in alaska makes for good tv. vs. a celebration. dude, do you remember the “crappy” quality of cell phones years ago?

i often refer to one of the FIRST cell phones ever. my folks had connections back then.

around 1974 a 5 minute call cost about $10 and 3 minutes were static.

the “quality” thing about delivery will come in time.

“the quality” of the content is in the eyes of the user.

that is what’s gonna kill broadcasters- thinking their anchors on vacation in alaska makes for good tv. vs. a celebration.

]]> By: Contrarian http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-549756 Contrarian Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:53:09 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-549756 We should. Why do we concept the idea that "internet=crappy video, but that's okay"? Meanwhile, this blog's talking HD elsewhere. We should.

Why do we concept the idea that “internet=crappy video, but that’s okay”?

Meanwhile, this blog’s talking HD elsewhere.

]]> By: David Kennerly http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548615 David Kennerly Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:35:44 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548615 I\'m late to this discussion - since the Red Sox parade was streamed and broadcast in multiple places, Steve\'s webcast was just one more angle on the event . However, many lower-profile events are only available via webcast, and even if they are streamed at 200 Kbps with a shaky camera on an unreliable connection, the video quality is really a moot point. If it\'s on, it\'s 100% better quality than if it\'s not on at all. If the parade wasn\'t available anywhere else, Steve\'s webcast would have been gold to Red Sox fans. A few weeks ago, Fox affiliate KFVS streamed the Southeast Missouri State University Homecoming Parade (link below), which is now available around the world, for free, to anyone who wants to watch it. SEMO fans and alumni don\'t care what it looks/sounds like, they care that they could see it, period. Pretty soon we\'ll be able to watch our kids\' little league games live on the web when we\'re away from home. Will we complain about quality then? SEMO homecoming parade: http://kfvs12.com/Global/category.asp?C=113976 I\’m late to this discussion - since the Red Sox parade was streamed and broadcast in multiple places, Steve\’s webcast was just one more angle on the event . However, many lower-profile events are only available via webcast, and even if they are streamed at 200 Kbps with a shaky camera on an unreliable connection, the video quality is really a moot point. If it\’s on, it\’s 100% better quality than if it\’s not on at all. If the parade wasn\’t available anywhere else, Steve\’s webcast would have been gold to Red Sox fans.

A few weeks ago, Fox affiliate KFVS streamed the Southeast Missouri State University Homecoming Parade (link below), which is now available around the world, for free, to anyone who wants to watch it. SEMO fans and alumni don\’t care what it looks/sounds like, they care that they could see it, period. Pretty soon we\’ll be able to watch our kids\’ little league games live on the web when we\’re away from home. Will we complain about quality then?

SEMO homecoming parade: http://kfvs12.com/Global/category.asp?C=113976

]]> By: Contrarian http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548485 Contrarian Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:49:29 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548485 You're welcome. I never thought I'd see that day that shaky, handheld video would be celebrated, but I guess we're there. Whatever's cheapest, right? You’re welcome.

I never thought I’d see that day that shaky, handheld video would be celebrated, but I guess we’re there.

Whatever’s cheapest, right?

]]> By: Steve Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548302 Steve Safran Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:23:23 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548302 Well, I thought I'd been called just about everything here. But "part of the problem?" Thanks. That was very funny. You finally came through. Well, I thought I’d been called just about everything here. But “part of the problem?” Thanks. That was very funny. You finally came through.

]]> By: steve Garfield http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548220 steve Garfield Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:28:52 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-548220 Congratulations. I'm sure people who were watching the live stream cared more about the content than the quality. Congratulations. I’m sure people who were watching the live stream cared more about the content than the quality.

]]> By: James Arthur O'Brien http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547786 James Arthur O'Brien Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:08:34 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547786 REBELCAST REBELCAST

]]> By: Contrarian http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547546 Contrarian Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:54:15 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547546 You're right on that cutting-edge with Rosenblum where quality no longer matters (when you can do a sub-par job for less money) with your "I'm sure it cost a lot more" comment. Congratulations, you're part of the problem! You’re right on that cutting-edge with Rosenblum where quality no longer matters (when you can do a sub-par job for less money) with your “I’m sure it cost a lot more” comment.

Congratulations, you’re part of the problem!

]]> By: Safran http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547407 Safran Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:56:05 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547407 The fact is that this is not old news for any but the most techie among us. I promise this is news to 99% of the TV execs. You can insult them and say that's "the problem" or you can salute them for trying to learn answers. The "everyone knows about this" attitude is what stops progress. There is more room for education than you realize. It's great that we can stream from these devices - but don't talk down to the people who don't know that yet. Insulting people who try new things and don't get them perfect the first time is exactly the problem. Video snobbery is the problem. People fear trying new things because they're worried they won't look perfect. We didn't look perfect. We lived. It's our mission to educate. There are plenty of techs who talk down to people. We try to lift 'em up. And good for Denver for having the resources to do a four-camera stream. Lots of stations don't. We try to offer ideas for affordable alternatives. I'm sure the Rockies' rally looked gorgeous. I'm sure the coverage cost a lot more, too. And I'm sure people liked watching our trophy, even after I rebooted... The fact is that this is not old news for any but the most techie among us. I promise this is news to 99% of the TV execs. You can insult them and say that’s “the problem” or you can salute them for trying to learn answers.

The “everyone knows about this” attitude is what stops progress. There is more room for education than you realize. It’s great that we can stream from these devices - but don’t talk down to the people who don’t know that yet.

Insulting people who try new things and don’t get them perfect the first time is exactly the problem. Video snobbery is the problem. People fear trying new things because they’re worried they won’t look perfect. We didn’t look perfect. We lived.

It’s our mission to educate. There are plenty of techs who talk down to people. We try to lift ‘em up.

And good for Denver for having the resources to do a four-camera stream. Lots of stations don’t. We try to offer ideas for affordable alternatives.

I’m sure the Rockies’ rally looked gorgeous. I’m sure the coverage cost a lot more, too.

And I’m sure people liked watching our trophy, even after I rebooted…

]]> By: JoeMo http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547302 JoeMo Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:51:59 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547302 Hack, I can live stream directly from my cell phone, streaming from a laptop is a cakewalk. Get with it folks, this is old news and it's a shame that people are spending time discussing it; no wonder why so many tv news stations are having financial issues. Hack, I can live stream directly from my cell phone, streaming from a laptop is a cakewalk. Get with it folks, this is old news and it’s a shame that people are spending time discussing it; no wonder why so many tv news stations are having financial issues.

]]> By: herold newgate http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547208 herold newgate Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:17:25 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547208 Nothing about this is *really* new... We did this at my old station with a wireless camera LIVE... and livestreamed it. If we wanted to take it out in the field, we could. I am not sure -- other than the site you are using to livestream with -- what the big deal is. All anyone needs is a 150k-200k pipe upstream of their video source (accomplished through wireless video card such as Verizon or WiFi card) and then the service that will stream it (audiovideoweb.com comes to mind). There are dozens of other companies that do this... All of this was doable in 2002 and was actually done in 2005. I dont get it.. In fact, laptops with video cards existed 4-5 years ago... Nothing about this is *really* new…

We did this at my old station with a wireless camera LIVE… and livestreamed it.

If we wanted to take it out in the field, we could.

I am not sure — other than the site you are using to livestream with — what the big deal is.

All anyone needs is a 150k-200k pipe upstream of their video source (accomplished through wireless video card such as Verizon or WiFi card) and then the service that will stream it (audiovideoweb.com comes to mind). There are dozens of other companies that do this…

All of this was doable in 2002 and was actually done in 2005.

I dont get it..

In fact, laptops with video cards existed 4-5 years ago…

]]> By: Wow http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547147 Wow Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:06:57 +0000 http://www.lostremote.com/2007/11/01/webcasting-the-red-sox-parade-from-a-laptop/#comment-547147 We streamed the Denver rally live with a four-camera switched shoot. But I guess that's just silly in these days of one-camera, handheld, laptop webcasts. Who'd want to see everything clearly when we can see the "charm" of you rebooting? We streamed the Denver rally live with a four-camera switched shoot.

But I guess that’s just silly in these days of one-camera, handheld, laptop webcasts.

Who’d want to see everything clearly when we can see the “charm” of you rebooting?

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