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	<title>Comments on: Another newspaper launches another boring webcast</title>
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	<description>Where TV Finds the Future</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1139089</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapeCast, the official webcast of the Cape Cod Times, rules the webcast universe. Many thanks, Eric Williams.</description>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1118344</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll rest my case, too.

You can't point to a single time on the Lost Remote blog where you EVER said something was not a good idea.

You also can't give an example of a success from AR&#38;D.

And dont go try selling us that WKRN stuff -- that failed long before the San Francisco debacle.

Oh, wait, KTBS? Yeah, not a success story either. And how is that local ad network going? By the way, that is NOT a scalable idea... Google does it because of its reach and audience.... Are you telling me market 100+ is going to monitize something like this?

TV station websites can barely schedule their OWN ads correctly on their OWN sites... now you think they can run and manage an entire local network.

As they said in the wonderful last episode of Generation Kill (I'm paraphrasing): "The business end of Gumbert's crack pipe must be hot to the f-ing touch."

Oh, and that was a video presentation with no panning over still photos. I wonder how I managed to still watch it? Golly gee...

-- 30 --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll rest my case, too.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t point to a single time on the Lost Remote blog where you EVER said something was not a good idea.</p>
<p>You also can&#8217;t give an example of a success from AR&amp;D.</p>
<p>And dont go try selling us that WKRN stuff &#8212; that failed long before the San Francisco debacle.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, KTBS? Yeah, not a success story either. And how is that local ad network going? By the way, that is NOT a scalable idea&#8230; Google does it because of its reach and audience&#8230;. Are you telling me market 100+ is going to monitize something like this?</p>
<p>TV station websites can barely schedule their OWN ads correctly on their OWN sites&#8230; now you think they can run and manage an entire local network.</p>
<p>As they said in the wonderful last episode of Generation Kill (I&#8217;m paraphrasing): &#8220;The business end of Gumbert&#8217;s crack pipe must be hot to the f-ing touch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, and that was a video presentation with no panning over still photos. I wonder how I managed to still watch it? Golly gee&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211; 30 &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1116781</link>
		<dc:creator>Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not going to rise to the flamebait anymore, Jim. I've supported and panned all sorts of ideas over the years. I offered to have an intelligent, one-on-one discussion on this with you. You refused. Done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to rise to the flamebait anymore, Jim. I&#8217;ve supported and panned all sorts of ideas over the years. I offered to have an intelligent, one-on-one discussion on this with you. You refused. Done.</p>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1116425</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when is the LAST time you ever said something someone was trying was a bad idea?

I rest my case...

rah, rah, rah!!!!

sales, sales, sales!!!!

if you're the person on the other end having to deal with your inane ideas (and then implement them) you come to resent bad ideas -- and those who constantly cheer them on (so as to look good)

when has your company ever done ANYthing that has worked? please.. tell me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when is the LAST time you ever said something someone was trying was a bad idea?</p>
<p>I rest my case&#8230;</p>
<p>rah, rah, rah!!!!</p>
<p>sales, sales, sales!!!!</p>
<p>if you&#8217;re the person on the other end having to deal with your inane ideas (and then implement them) you come to resent bad ideas &#8212; and those who constantly cheer them on (so as to look good)</p>
<p>when has your company ever done ANYthing that has worked? please.. tell me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1114645</link>
		<dc:creator>Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's what I thought.</description>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1114327</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I don't accept...

Look, your motive here is to sell something.

Otherwise you would have never compared a Ken Burns documentary to daily NEWS VIDEO.

It just smacks of a off-the-cuff remark that makes you look "smart" when in reality -- when you really analyze it -- makes no sense.

I know what you are up to. It's to provide "feel good" comments that seem to support just about everything... and what does a GM want to see? Just that.

They don't want reality from people who have actually done this -- and seen it fail spectatularly.

I really just can't believe that you are such a salesman that you would try to "smooth things over" by -- again -- using Ken Burns as an example of "what works".

According to your logic I could find any snippit of video anywhere and say "well, it works" -- not matter what it is.

Just keep posting and I'll keep calling you out.

It's nothing personal -- I just HATE bad ideas and smarmy people who never seem to find anything wrong -- because it helps their business.

When HAVE you EVER said "Gosh, this just is not a good idea --- don't do it"?

Never.

That is because your MO is just as I said above -- all smiles and "go get 'em" when in reality the ideas are actually bad.

Keep it up. Some GM somewhere who doesn't know any better will buy.... you cast a thousand nets and eventually you will haul in some fool.

Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I don&#8217;t accept&#8230;</p>
<p>Look, your motive here is to sell something.</p>
<p>Otherwise you would have never compared a Ken Burns documentary to daily NEWS VIDEO.</p>
<p>It just smacks of a off-the-cuff remark that makes you look &#8220;smart&#8221; when in reality &#8212; when you really analyze it &#8212; makes no sense.</p>
<p>I know what you are up to. It&#8217;s to provide &#8220;feel good&#8221; comments that seem to support just about everything&#8230; and what does a GM want to see? Just that.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want reality from people who have actually done this &#8212; and seen it fail spectatularly.</p>
<p>I really just can&#8217;t believe that you are such a salesman that you would try to &#8220;smooth things over&#8221; by &#8212; again &#8212; using Ken Burns as an example of &#8220;what works&#8221;.</p>
<p>According to your logic I could find any snippit of video anywhere and say &#8220;well, it works&#8221; &#8212; not matter what it is.</p>
<p>Just keep posting and I&#8217;ll keep calling you out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing personal &#8212; I just HATE bad ideas and smarmy people who never seem to find anything wrong &#8212; because it helps their business.</p>
<p>When HAVE you EVER said &#8220;Gosh, this just is not a good idea &#8212; don&#8217;t do it&#8221;?</p>
<p>Never.</p>
<p>That is because your MO is just as I said above &#8212; all smiles and &#8220;go get &#8216;em&#8221; when in reality the ideas are actually bad.</p>
<p>Keep it up. Some GM somewhere who doesn&#8217;t know any better will buy&#8230;. you cast a thousand nets and eventually you will haul in some fool.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1113210</link>
		<dc:creator>Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim/Jason:

I always enjoy your ad hominem attacks and your postings that do little to advance to discourse. It's been months since you tried to slap me down with an obvious "he's just trying to sell something" crack, and I was beginning to think you'd forgotten.

I like to think that, even as an evil consultant, I too have the right to publish my opinion on LR. The reason I left as a full-timer here was so that LR could maintain its neutrality. Although I knew I could post stories that wouldn't conflict with my work, I also knew I would be faced with allegations of trying to fudge the news in my direction. I wouldn't do that to LR. So I blog on my own, where it's clear what I do for a living.

I'd like to know - and I hope you'll come clean: why the anger? What have I done to you? I have a feeling an evening in a bar would resolve the grudge. And I'd buy.

I will continue to post my thoughts and opinions here. (Until Cory tells me otherwise.) Everyone knows what I do for a living. I have yet to post a sales pitch. I post, as I did for 7 years at LR, thoughts, ideas and opinions about our industry. Jim, I've earned a voice here and I'm willing to bet there are a few folks who will back that up.

I extend my offer: let's exchange a real discussion, via phone, email or in person, so I can find out what it is that I have done to deserve these snide, hateful attacks. If I have earned them, give me the chance to right them. If I haven't, please allow me the honor of providing my own defense. In either case, beer will play a role.

Do you accept? Email me at steviesaf@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim/Jason:</p>
<p>I always enjoy your ad hominem attacks and your postings that do little to advance to discourse. It&#8217;s been months since you tried to slap me down with an obvious &#8220;he&#8217;s just trying to sell something&#8221; crack, and I was beginning to think you&#8217;d forgotten.</p>
<p>I like to think that, even as an evil consultant, I too have the right to publish my opinion on LR. The reason I left as a full-timer here was so that LR could maintain its neutrality. Although I knew I could post stories that wouldn&#8217;t conflict with my work, I also knew I would be faced with allegations of trying to fudge the news in my direction. I wouldn&#8217;t do that to LR. So I blog on my own, where it&#8217;s clear what I do for a living.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know - and I hope you&#8217;ll come clean: why the anger? What have I done to you? I have a feeling an evening in a bar would resolve the grudge. And I&#8217;d buy.</p>
<p>I will continue to post my thoughts and opinions here. (Until Cory tells me otherwise.) Everyone knows what I do for a living. I have yet to post a sales pitch. I post, as I did for 7 years at LR, thoughts, ideas and opinions about our industry. Jim, I&#8217;ve earned a voice here and I&#8217;m willing to bet there are a few folks who will back that up.</p>
<p>I extend my offer: let&#8217;s exchange a real discussion, via phone, email or in person, so I can find out what it is that I have done to deserve these snide, hateful attacks. If I have earned them, give me the chance to right them. If I haven&#8217;t, please allow me the honor of providing my own defense. In either case, beer will play a role.</p>
<p>Do you accept? Email me at <a href="mailto:steviesaf@gmail.com">steviesaf@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1113072</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and it was worth every penny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and it was worth every penny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1113071</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha! no.. funny though!

I just cant believe some as "smart" as Safran would really try to sit here and tell us that shooting still photos as video is OK...

And compare a Ken Burns documentary to news video....

Just amazing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha! no.. funny though!</p>
<p>I just cant believe some as &#8220;smart&#8221; as Safran would really try to sit here and tell us that shooting still photos as video is OK&#8230;</p>
<p>And compare a Ken Burns documentary to news video&#8230;.</p>
<p>Just amazing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tdc</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1112899</link>
		<dc:creator>tdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#46,

did you recently leave wral and take a job at wdik?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#46,</p>
<p>did you recently leave wral and take a job at wdik?</p>
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		<title>By: Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1112591</link>
		<dc:creator>Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was for free.</p>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1112569</link>
		<dc:creator>jim wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok safran.. back to sell us something...

The panning across still photos aspect DOES NOT work well.

Sure, the content for a slim, very deep piece of content for a documentary *might* work for PBS.

But, on a daily news cast? That is billed AS VIDEO?

First, there is a reason PBS exists. It is not in the position to get ratings and make real money...

So, if someone wants to copy that "video" style.. have fun... you won't make dime one.

Trying to compare a 9 part Ken Burns documentary on (government subsizied PBS) to a daily news VIDEO cast is ridiculous Safran.

Plus, just look at the ratings of the recent Ken Burns attempts. Quite low...

If newspapers want to listen to you and shoot video of still photos -- great. That makes it even easier for TV stations to win the battle of local news.

Go sell your stuff somewhere else... please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok safran.. back to sell us something&#8230;</p>
<p>The panning across still photos aspect DOES NOT work well.</p>
<p>Sure, the content for a slim, very deep piece of content for a documentary *might* work for PBS.</p>
<p>But, on a daily news cast? That is billed AS VIDEO?</p>
<p>First, there is a reason PBS exists. It is not in the position to get ratings and make real money&#8230;</p>
<p>So, if someone wants to copy that &#8220;video&#8221; style.. have fun&#8230; you won&#8217;t make dime one.</p>
<p>Trying to compare a 9 part Ken Burns documentary on (government subsizied PBS) to a daily news VIDEO cast is ridiculous Safran.</p>
<p>Plus, just look at the ratings of the recent Ken Burns attempts. Quite low&#8230;</p>
<p>If newspapers want to listen to you and shoot video of still photos &#8212; great. That makes it even easier for TV stations to win the battle of local news.</p>
<p>Go sell your stuff somewhere else&#8230; please</p>
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		<title>By: Rosenblum</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1112381</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosenblum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local TV news already steals most of their stories from the newspapers.
The last thing I would want to adapt from local news is their storytelling techniques.  Death.  Do you really think that the average person, upon seeing someone hit by a car (for example) would come home to their spouse, sit ramrod straight at the table and intone "tragedy struck the streets last night as 22 year old Mary McGrath fought for her life"
Please....
The 'techniques' of local news were honed in the 1950s and have not changed one iota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local TV news already steals most of their stories from the newspapers.<br />
The last thing I would want to adapt from local news is their storytelling techniques.  Death.  Do you really think that the average person, upon seeing someone hit by a car (for example) would come home to their spouse, sit ramrod straight at the table and intone &#8220;tragedy struck the streets last night as 22 year old Mary McGrath fought for her life&#8221;<br />
Please&#8230;.<br />
The &#8216;techniques&#8217; of local news were honed in the 1950s and have not changed one iota.</p>
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		<title>By: mediawiseguy</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1111526</link>
		<dc:creator>mediawiseguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>newspapers are foolish to attempt to do tv news on the web. As much as they hate to admit it, video requires performance, command , and story. Not just story.

the answer is to marry strong newspaper journalism with the techniques of local news. A poor story teller kills the story. 

Mike R. is hardly an icon. He has failed at every shop he has tried to convert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newspapers are foolish to attempt to do tv news on the web. As much as they hate to admit it, video requires performance, command , and story. Not just story.</p>
<p>the answer is to marry strong newspaper journalism with the techniques of local news. A poor story teller kills the story. </p>
<p>Mike R. is hardly an icon. He has failed at every shop he has tried to convert.</p>
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		<title>By: LW</title>
		<link>http://www.lostremote.com/2008/07/25/another-newspaper-launches-another-boring-webcast/#comment-1110613</link>
		<dc:creator>LW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, John; the blog page is as a la carte as a waitress pushing the meatloaf hard while not handing out a menu.  I can order something else if I know to ask for it.  The link to the archive is difficult to see, buried by loud auto-playing ads (I know you need em) and the Ledger Live links... and once you get to the the gallery, it is inelegant and not particularly easy to use... why usernames instead of bylines?  "With the Star-Ledger" -- I assume because user videos land in the archive too -- rather than "By the Star-Ledger" undermines the authority of your brand.       

Tvjersey.com is a lot cleaner (you have some skewed aspect ratios on some of your thumbs, which draws away from the overall impact of the design)... why no link to there from the blog?  And why no Star-Ledger graphic?  The Ledger has meaning to anyone who's been paying attention... why not play that up? 

As for bringing in the bloggers-- that's great, there's a place for it.  But I think the reporters and photographers you already have on staff should be featured, their work promoted.  

Anyway-- thanks for listening the feedback, with especially good humor.  I'm rooting for you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, John; the blog page is as a la carte as a waitress pushing the meatloaf hard while not handing out a menu.  I can order something else if I know to ask for it.  The link to the archive is difficult to see, buried by loud auto-playing ads (I know you need em) and the Ledger Live links&#8230; and once you get to the the gallery, it is inelegant and not particularly easy to use&#8230; why usernames instead of bylines?  &#8220;With the Star-Ledger&#8221; &#8212; I assume because user videos land in the archive too &#8212; rather than &#8220;By the Star-Ledger&#8221; undermines the authority of your brand.       </p>
<p>Tvjersey.com is a lot cleaner (you have some skewed aspect ratios on some of your thumbs, which draws away from the overall impact of the design)&#8230; why no link to there from the blog?  And why no Star-Ledger graphic?  The Ledger has meaning to anyone who&#8217;s been paying attention&#8230; why not play that up? </p>
<p>As for bringing in the bloggers&#8211; that&#8217;s great, there&#8217;s a place for it.  But I think the reporters and photographers you already have on staff should be featured, their work promoted.  </p>
<p>Anyway&#8211; thanks for listening the feedback, with especially good humor.  I&#8217;m rooting for you guys.</p>
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